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CORRECT DOCTRINE? From: "Jack
Walker" <walkerjack821@gmail.com> Date:
Sat, May 11, 2013 5:43 pm To:
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ARE NOT SAVED BY CORRECT DOCTRINE BUT RATHER BY THE DOING AND DYING OF JESUS
CHRIST ! THEN
WHAT GOOD IS CORRECT DOCTRINE ? IT
LIFTS UP JESUS IN ALL HIS GLORY ! READ
THE FOLLOWING TEXTS AND THEN THINK WHAT
IT CAN MEAN : *MATTHEW
11 : 28, 29 * *COME
UNTO ME, ALL YE* *THAT LABOR AND ARE HEAVY LADEN,* *AND I WILL GIVE YOU REST.*
*TAKE MY YOKE UPON YOU , AND LEARN OF ME ; FOR I AM MEEK * *AND LOWLY IN
HEART: AND YE SHALL FIND REST UNTO YOUR SOULS .* * OUR
REST IS IN A PERSON , AND NOT IN A DAY. WHEN
WE COME TO HIM WE FIND REST UNTO OUR SOULS . OUR
REST IS IN JESUS AND NOT
IN A DAY. BEST,
JACK - From: Webmaster [webmaster@adventistlaymen.com
Sent:
Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:59
AM
To:
'Jack Walker'
Subject:
RE: CORRECT DOCTRINE
?
I didn’t intend to comment; but changed my
mind. There is a strange aberration in contemporary Seventh-day Adventism which
contends that all that is required for salvation is a ”profession” of faith in
the Lord Jesus Christ; and this is a repudiation of all that both the early
Christian Church and the Advent Movement believed and practiced. This ignores
the admonitions of both Old and New Testament Scriptures: My people are destroyed for lack of
knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that
thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy
God, I will also forget thy children. Hosea 4:6 Study to show thyself approved unto
God,
a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Tim. 2:15. We prove our belief in Jesus Christ
by the knowledge of Truth and obedience to His Word:
And ye shall know the truth,
and the truth shall make you free. John 8:32 But God be thanked, that ye were the
servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of
doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye
became the servants of righteousness. Rom. 6:17-18. (Webmaster@adventistlaymen.com) The Bible speaks clearly on the respective
roles of "correct" (true/sound) doctrine in securing salvation, and
false doctrine by which salvation is lost. The text quoted to support the
contention that “WE ARE NOT SAVED BY CORRECT DOCTRINE” is misapplied beyond
logic and reason. What the Bible does say in contradiction to the
contention is clear and unequivocal. Let us begin with two statements of the
Apostle Paul in 1 Tim. 4 which categorically refute the contention: 1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,
that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to
seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils . . .16Take heed unto
thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou
shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. The Word of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself is
crystal clear:
But in vain they do worship
me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Matt. 15:9. Among his numerous exhortations (Cf. 2 Tim.
3:16-17, Titus 1:8-9, Titus 2:1, Heb. 13:9) on the critical importance of sound
doctrine, the Apostle Paul wrote in 2 Tim. 4: 2Preach the word; be instant in
season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine. 3For the time will come when they will not endure
sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves
teachers, having itching ears; 4And they shall turn away their
ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. The prophecy is fulfilled in our times.
Paul, writing about the spiritual gifts, made this statement in Eph. 4: 13Till we all come in
the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect
man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14That
we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with
every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness,
whereby they lie in wait to deceive. The Apostle John wrote: Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not
in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine
of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:9. Thus we see the critical role of doctrine in
the lives of those who would abide in Jesus Christ and the Father. If we do not
abide in the Godhead we are lost! THE WORD OF GOD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. Webmaster@adventistlaymen.com.
From:
Jack
Walker [walkerjack821@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May
19, 2013 9:09 AM
To:
Webmaster
Subject: Re: CORRECT
DOCTRINE ? WHAT YOU SAY IS THE RESULTS OF A BELIEVERS SALVATION AND NOT THE MEANS OF IT . BEST, JACK
From: Webmaster [mailto:webmaster@adventistlaymen.com]
Consider the first great
principle of salvation for humankind from the lips of Jesus Christ
Himself:
For God so
loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever
believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For
God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the
world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not
condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because
he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John
3:16-18.
Clearly salvation is
conditional on belief. The second chapter of Acts describes how Peter
preached the gospel on the Day of Pentecost and the results of his
sermon:
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart,
and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and
brethren, what shall we do? (Verse 37)
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized . . .
(Verse 41, first part)
And they continued
stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship . . . (Verse 42,
first part)
The gospel message
brought conviction to the hearers. A large number believed and were
baptized; and note that they “continued stedfastly in the apostles”
doctrine . . . First must come the preaching or presentation of the
Gospel, which is doctrine. If this were not so, all preaching and
teaching would be superfluous, including yours. WE ARE SAVED BECAUSE WE
BELIEVE. WE DO NOT BELIEVE BECAUSE WE ARE SAVED.
The Bible speaks clearly
when freed from the doctrinal preconceptions of men. As the late Editor
of Watchman, What of the Night? stressed repeatedly, the study of
the Bible must needs be exegetical (finding the meaning within the text,
and comparing Scripture with Scripture) rather than eisegetical (making
the text conform to an existing belief or bias.)
It is also imperative
that we progress beyond first principles. Consider again the words of
Jesus Christ:
I have yet
many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit
when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all
truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall
hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
John 16:12-13.
Essential principles of
Truth were revealed to the Apostle Paul, as he said:
But I certify you,
brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For
I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the
revelation of Jesus Christ. Gal. 1:11-12.
This was not a simple
“Jesus loves me this I know.” As the Apostle Peter said of Paul’s
writings:
Speaking of this as he
does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to
understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own
destruction, as they do the other scriptures. 2 Peter 3:16. (NRSV)
Paul himself wrote
concerning Jesus Christ:
Called of God an high
priest after the order of Melchisedec. Of whom we have many things to
say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. For
when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach
you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are
become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every
one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is
a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even
those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both
good and evil. Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of
Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of
repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God. Heb. 5:10-14,
6:1
Not surprisingly, Paul
wrote this in his epistle concerning the work of Jesus Christ as High
Priest in the heavenly sanctuary; and so that we should understand
clearly the scope of his message to the Hebrews, he explicitly excluded
the Most Holy:
And over it the cherubims
of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak
particularly. Heb. 9:5
Why do I make this point?
Because there are two phases of Christ’s ministry in the heavenly
sanctuary, as there were two phases in the earthly sanctuary services,
with forgiveness of sin resulting from the daily ministration, and
forgiveness and cleansing resulting from the services of the Day of
Atonement. Paul was not dealing with the second phase in the book of
Hebrews. The first phase in the heavenly sanctuary ended in 1844, be it
ever so much denied by some contemporary Seventh-day Adventists and
fellow-travelers. Then the antitypical Day of Atonement began, and it
will soon result in the cleansing of the final generation of God’s
people. THERE IS A DUAL ATONEMENT! This is clearly established by a
careful study of Lev. 4 & 16. We cannot reject the promise of the
FINAL ATONEMENT and expect to survive spiritually in the time of Jacob’s
trouble that is rapidly approaching.
I don’t expect you to
agree with the foregoing statements of doctrine; however, all that I
have just written is a part of the “the gospel of God, . . .Concerning
his Son Jesus Christ our Lord . . . Rom. 1:1,3, of which Paul wrote the
following:
And to you who are
troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven
with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that
know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 Thess. 1:7-8
May we heed the warning
and be diligent to know the gospel and be obedient to it by the
grace of Jesus Christ and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Eric (Webmaster@adventistlaymen.com)
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